The Off The Menu Podcast
Food is more than fuel—it’s a bond that holds people together. Food shapes relationships, cultures, and life itself. The main ingredients of this podcast are lively conversation and thought-provoking guests, with a generous sprinkling of humor and a dash of irreverence. Hosts Joel Nepa and Wal Ozello introduce you to food industry experts, entrepreneurs, and everyday people with personal stories and unique insights. This podcast is for everyone–from hardcore foodies to people who just want to lose themselves in a great story. Each episode is like a memorable meal with close friends and fascinating new acquaintances. Pull up a chair and join us at the table!
Episodes

Jul 14, 2026
Jul 14, 2026
15 min
We're taking a short summer break, but before we hit the road, we're talking about one of our favorite subjects: vacation food. In this special mini-episode, Wal and Joel share their picks for the top food destinations to visit, the dishes that make those places worth the trip, and the meals they're most excited to enjoy on their own upcoming vacations.
From iconic local specialties to can't-miss restaurants and food traditions, it's a lighthearted conversation about the meals that turn a good trip into a great one. Grab a snack, start planning your next getaway, and join us for a quick serving of food-inspired wanderlust.
The Off The Menu Podcast will return soon with new guests and new stories. Until then, happy travels and happy eating!

Jul 7, 2026
Jul 7, 2026
54 min
In this episode of The Off The Menu Podcast, Wal, Joel, and Tom sit down with Jim Varney, co-founder of Wavelength Coffee Roasters, to uncover the surprising journey coffee takes from a tropical coffee cherry to your morning cup. Jim explains what coffee actually is, how processing and roasting impact flavor, why coffees from different regions taste so different, and how consumers can make better choices when buying coffee.
The conversation also explores one of the biggest challenges facing the coffee industry today: climate change. Jim shares how rising temperatures are shrinking coffee-growing regions around the world and why sustainable farming practices are becoming increasingly important. Along the way, you'll learn the differences between light, medium, and dark roasts, whether expensive coffee is worth it, and the biggest mistakes coffee drinkers make at home.
If you love coffee—or simply can't start your day without it—this episode will change the way you think about every cup.

Jun 30, 2026
Jun 30, 2026
43 min
In the first-ever Off The Menu Food Fight, Wal, Joel, and Tom throw out the facts and lean into pure opinion as they tackle some of the most divisive food debates around. Is Skyline Chili a regional treasure or a culinary disaster? Does pineapple belong on pizza? Should fish ever be microwaved at work? And where exactly does ketchup belong?
The debate only gets hotter during a rapid-fire lightning round covering chocolate bars, cilantro, White Castle, blue cheese, veggie burgers, cereal, scrapple, spicy chicken sandwiches, and more.
If you've ever argued with friends or family about food, this episode is for you. Expect strong opinions, questionable logic, plenty of laughs, and absolutely no chance of reaching a consensus. Based on a listener suggestion, this episode proves that food isn't just what we eat—it's something we're willing to fight about.

Jun 23, 2026
Jun 23, 2026
54 min
What makes a truly great pasta sauce? Is it the tomatoes, the family recipe, or the way it's preserved?
In this episode of The Off The Menu Podcast, we sit down with Melaina Balbo, founder of BIS Pasta Sauce, to explore Italian food traditions, family recipes, entrepreneurship, and why frozen pasta sauce may deliver a fresher, more authentic flavor than shelf-stable jars.
Melaina shares stories of growing up in a large Italian family in New York, receiving homemade sauce care packages while away at school, learning food traditions in Sicily, and launching a food startup inspired by generations of family cooking. The conversation dives into San Marzano tomatoes, pesto, marinara vs. pomodoro sauce, the infamous "sauce or gravy" debate, and the challenges of building a specialty food brand from scratch.

Jun 16, 2026
Jun 16, 2026
57 min
What separates an everyday grocery-store cheese from something truly unforgettable? This week, we sit down with certified cheese professional Jon Reese of Black Radish Creamery to explore the fascinating world of artisan cheese. From the ancient origins of cheesemaking and the science behind curds, cultures, and aging, to building the perfect cheese board and pairing cheese with wine, Jon shares insider knowledge that will change the way you shop, serve, and enjoy cheese. Plus, learn why Swiss cheese has holes, how to store cheese properly, and the surprising cheeses every food lover should try. Whether you're a charcuterie enthusiast or a late-night fridge raider, this episode is packed with delicious insights.

Jun 9, 2026
Jun 9, 2026
45 min
Remember mystery meat, cardboard pizza, and fluorescent cafeteria lights? Today's school lunch experience is something entirely different.
This week, we sit down with Jonathan Squibb, Director of Communications for Chartwells K-12, to explore how modern school cafeterias have evolved into restaurant-style dining experiences serving millions of students every day.
From build-your-own burrito bowls and global cuisine to allergy-friendly meals, cultural accommodations, celebrity chef partnerships, and nutrition standards, Jonathan explains how schools are balancing food quality, student preferences, health requirements, and tight budgets.
We also discuss food allergies, celiac disease, free and reduced-price meals, the impact of social media trends on student tastes, and why school lunches may be healthier—and more affordable—than many parents realize.
If you haven't stepped into a school cafeteria in a while, prepare to be surprised.

Jun 2, 2026
Jun 2, 2026
57 min
In this episode of The Off The Menu Podcast, Wal, Joel, and Tom sit down with food safety expert and Rutgers University professor Don Schaffner to separate food safety facts from fiction.
From the 5-second rule and cutting board debates to restaurant safety, food recalls, proper cooking temperatures, and the hidden risks lurking in everyday foods, Professor Schaffner explains what really makes food safe—and what doesn't. Along the way, we discuss leftovers, food trucks, grilling season, food poisoning, and the simple habits that can dramatically reduce your risk of getting sick.
If you've ever wondered whether that pizza left on the counter is still safe to eat, how worried you should be about restaurant food, or what food safety experts actually do, this episode is for you.

May 27, 2026
May 27, 2026
51 min
In this episode of The Off The Menu Podcast, Wal, Joel, and Tom sit down with agricultural economist David Anderson from Texas A&M University to unpack the real reasons behind soaring beef prices.
From shrinking cattle herds and rising ranching costs to supply chain bottlenecks, meat processing capacity, consumer demand, and global trade, Professor Anderson breaks down the economics of beef in a way that actually makes sense. Along the way, we explore why chicken and pork remain relatively affordable, whether imported beef could help, and how long Americans may be paying premium prices for burgers and steaks.
If you’ve looked at the meat aisle lately and wondered what happened, this episode is for you.

May 19, 2026
May 19, 2026
54 min
Beer has shaped human civilization for thousands of years — from ancient Egypt and medieval taverns to modern sports bars and craft breweries. In this episode, food historian Professor Jeffery Pilcher explains the surprising history of beer, how it fueled trade and community, why taverns changed society, how Prohibition transformed drinking culture, and why beer became the social drink of the modern world. A fascinating conversation about beer culture, human connection, and the evolution of one of humanity’s oldest beverages.

May 12, 2026
May 12, 2026
48 min
In this episode of The Off The Menu Podcast, we talk with bestselling author and retail psychology expert Paco Underhill about the hidden psychology behind grocery stores — and how store layouts, lighting, smells, signage, and product placement influence what consumers buy every day.
From impulse buying and consumer behavior to online grocery shopping and the future of retail, Paco explains how modern grocery stores are carefully designed to shape shopping habits without us even realizing it.
If you’ve ever walked into a grocery store for one thing and left with a full cart… this episode will completely change the way you shop.







